Nicholas Cage's Magical Overacting: A Sorcerer's Apprentice Exploration

Ready to dive headfirst into the magical world of The Sorcerer's Apprentice? This episode of Second Emulation is your golden ticket to explore the 2010 Disney film, starring Nicholas Cage, Jay Burchell, Alfred Molina, and Teresa Palmer. We'll break down the storyline, its connections to the classic tale of Merlin and the Sword in the Stone, and get up close and personal with the characters and lore.

You won't want to miss our discussion on how the movie portrays the relationship between magic and science, and the absolute importance of Nicholas Cage's overacting to the film's cheesy vibe. Plus, we'll unveil the secrets behind the rings the characters use to amplify their powers, and how Dave's engineering background and Merlin's ability to do magic without a ring make them especially powerful. All this and more awaits you in our magical adventure.

As we come to the end of our enchanting journey, we'll compare The Sorcerer's Apprentice to its predecessor, Knowing, and share our own ratings of the film. Don't miss out on our reviews from Letterbox and Otherbox, with special shoutouts to Emily, Molly, Jenna, and Kayla. Join us as we analyze the peaks and valleys of Nicholas Cage's career and wrap up this spellbinding episode of Second Emulation. Trust us, it's pure magic.

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Speaker 1: 0:00

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Speaker 2: 0:22

All right. So this is the next film Sorcerer's Apprentice, our next journey and the Nick Cage Multiverse. I kind of consider this as a palette cleanser film from last week's movie watch of Knowing, which we don't want to talk about.

Speaker 3: 0:44

Yes, we were very disappointed, and this definitely, even though it was cheesy, was much more enjoyable than Knowing.

Speaker 2: 0:54

Knowing is a Disney film and it's actually I want to say it's almost kind of like a sequel in a sense, to like a Sorcerer in a Stone, but not really, You mean the Sword in a Stone. Yeah, Sword in a Stone. sorry, my apologies, Sword in a Stone, but yes.

Speaker 3: 1:14

Yeah, so hi everyone, it's me again, kylie. Back from the grave now. So the Sorcerer's Apprentice. It came out in 2010, so a year after Knowing, which, again, we don't want to talk about. It's directed by John Turtle Tav, i think, is how you say his name.

Speaker 3: 1:33

The cast actually is pretty stacked for a movie. It has Nicholas Cage Jay Burchell, i think, is how you say his name. He was the guy from she's out of my league and he's been in that. He was like the awkward skinny, dorky, nerdy guy who was trying to get super famous in 2010 area. He was in a lot of films around. Then Has Alfred Molina, teresa Palmer and then and Teresa Palmer, i believe, is she's been in. She's done quite a few things, i think, but I can't remember what it is right now. But yeah, i just think that those four people are like noticeable faces. If you were to see them, you would know who they were just from past movies. So it's a little bit more stacked than the last one And basically, the movie is about what does Nicholas Cage plays?

Speaker 3: 2:23

this guy named Belfazar, right, and he was one of Merlin's three sorcerers who were learning from him. It seems like They were one of his apprentices. So Merlin had three apprentices, way, way, way back in the day, myself I think Victoria maybe was the other one, and then Horvath was another and ultimately Horvath betrayed Merlin to Margana, right, correct. And so she came to kill Merlin and when she did the other the female apprentice that and Victoria, i think is her name, or Veronica, something like that she ends up merging herself with Margana and Nicholas Cage traps them in a vessel I don't remember what he calls it.

Speaker 2: 3:10

I think it's the we're calling it. It's a nesting doll, but it's the.

Speaker 3: 3:15

Yeah, it's a nesting doll, but he calls it something specific which I can't remember The Grimhold. Yeah, there it is. She traps her in there as well as the other Margana's other evil like sorcerers over the Called the Morganians.

Speaker 3: 3:30

Yeah, the clan over the next, like centuries. While he's waiting for Merlin's, the next of Merlin's kin, to come, merlin gives him a ring and says that the next person you know in his line who's meant to take up the mantle the ring will respond to. And so Nicholas Cage is trying to find him, while also still battling the people in the Margana clan, including Horvath, who he eventually traps. And then the movie comes to and the kid I think his name is Dave. He is like a child, i think he's like 10 or nine, and they're on a field trip and he's asking this girl with a note out on a date and the note disappears and goes into Nicholas Cage's.

Speaker 2: 4:14

Like almost like, a, i want to say like a collection of oddities.

Speaker 3: 4:20

Yeah, i would say like the old curiosity shop down at Pike. It's very reminiscent of that. And he, when he's there, nicholas Cage, shows him the ring and it ends up on his, like he responds to Dave, the ring does and wraps around him And so Nicholas Cage gets really excited and goes to grab their, their book of spells or whatever. And that's when the kid accidentally opens up the Grimhold that's holding Horvath And he comes out. Him and Nicholas Cage fight and they both get trapped in like this earn for 10 years And then it shows you again 10 years later And basically it's. It's Balthas are trying to teach Dave how to wield his powers to fight Morgana, the Morgana clan, that are coming back.

Speaker 2: 5:08

Correct. So that's kind of like the synopsis of the movie, but it's like essentially it's. It plays kind of like in the essence or in the core, the sword in the stone. Essentially, like you know, our Merlin teaching Arthur a little bit about magic and how to be Balthas are you know in that timeframe, is like you know Well after. So the whole point of like him on his quest is that one of the Morganians kill Merlin and he dies and he, you know, informs Balthazar that you know through his bloodline. So not like like that Merlin has descendants or children but, like you know, through his essence, someone will, you know, have his essence, almost like reincarnation of some sort, have his power and so he can't die.

Speaker 2: 6:15

So he has a spell that keeps him alive forever. So he's throwing this whole journey.

Speaker 3: 6:21

I think he can die, but just not by natural cause, like not by aging.

Speaker 2: 6:27

Not by aging, so like, not like by the natural order of like, growing old and dying, but he can still get sick and things like that. So he, you see him, you know, on his pilgrimage and when he, as my colleague mentioned, when he finally encounters Dave, he's like you know, you've entered here, as it seems like coincidence or magic, and so he's like the sigh relief, like all his quest is almost done and the ring, as you mentioned, activates to him. He's like, yes, you know, and his job is to protect this individual. So he does, as Horvath in him, battle into the urn 10 years. He does that to protect the kid which ends up scarring Dave 10 years after he's trauma. Dave is traumatized, we get pick up, the day starts again, similar how sorry, when day was 10, you know, and kids traumatized.

Speaker 3: 7:33

Well, yeah, he was teased afterwards.

Speaker 2: 7:34

Yeah, he was teased forever.

Speaker 3: 7:36

People thought he was delusional and that he was. You know he was having a. He was having a hallucination so he got teased heavily. So he's he's definitely wary of being a sorcerer, anything magic related, because he's he's definitely got some PTSD from that and it just goes through, like his, his school days, and he runs into the girl that he asked out on that day with the note. But it's also the day that Nicholas Cage's character, balthazar and Horvath, get released from the urn that has them trapped for 10 years. So he doesn't have, he can't escape it. No, No.

Speaker 2: 8:13

And then when he finally, you know, when Balthazar runs into him again, he he kind of tells him you know, like he has the ring and he kind of like he's like I know it's you, he goes, it's. It's been 10 years, i never forget a face. So when they do like the reunion, he kind of like breaks it down to him or takes him and he's like giving him the four on one like you are a descendant of Merlin. And the reason why I need your help is we got to stop this catastrophe. The guy's like this shit can't be real.

Speaker 3: 9:01

Yeah he doesn't feel like it can be real, but it is.

Speaker 2: 9:05

But it is, and like you and in all, like the, in the heroes journey, where you have the mentor who's like explaining everything, and the kids you know the, the students kind of like reluctant to like to get with the program. You kind of see this with, you know, with all heroes journey, like the students reluctant to get with the program because he, you know he doesn't, he's a college student, so he's a electrical engineer, so the girl that he's fawning over is a radio.

Speaker 3: 9:39

DJ.

Speaker 2: 9:40

Yeah, she's a DJ for a radio station that he tuned into.

Speaker 3: 9:43

Yeah, but yeah. So that's pretty much the gist of like the beginning of the movie and I think pretty much till the end. It all leads up to this giant battle with Morgana and then trying to defeat her to prevent, you know, her from raising in the army of the dead. Did you have any favorite scenes in the movie? I had a few. I really liked when ever a villain came out of the of the Grimhold or whatever he was calling it. I especially liked when it was Abigail Williams, because they brought that lore into it too.

Speaker 3: 10:15

As we all know the Salem witch trials. She was one of the girls who cried wolf and instigated that someone else was a witch and like pretty much kicked it off with a few of those other girls, and I like that. They brought that lore into it. I wish they would have had more of her, honestly, but she's only in there for like a couple scenes. And then they also have the other guy with the dragon. He seems pretty chill too, or not chill, but obviously he's evil, he's trying to kill him. He seemed cool, like that part was interesting. There wasn't anything that was too much that I thought was too much for a movie like this, but it's because the movie like this. You already know what you're getting. You're supposed to be magic, they're supposed to be fighting evil, and so the more extravagant the better. I also really enjoyed Nicholas Cage's overacting because I think it was needed to be cheesy, like he wore a fedora. His hair was magnificent. It was back to its con ear days.

Speaker 3: 11:07

Yes, yes It was long, he had a fedora. He drove on a swanky car. Like you know, he wore old man shoes. I really was digging the vibe that he was putting out.

Speaker 2: 11:18

My one of my favorite scenes and I think I consider it to be one of my favorite scenes is when he begins to explain the relationship between magic and science to Dave and Sid and essentially tells him that they are one of the same thing, that magic and science are identical, and so and what he means by this is that, as a sorcerer, what you're doing is essentially manipulating the things around you And so that essentially, you know that's how things manifest. And so he gave a good, realistic description. He goes how you create fire. You know it doesn't just happen out of thin air, you're not conjuring a spell, and it exists. He goes what you're doing is that you're causing the molecules to vibrate at a high frequency. So you're actually manipulating the molecules to vibrate to a point that they have an instant reaction that's causing them to combust. And as he was explaining that and then showing him, it made it much more realistic of how he was explaining magic to Dave, because Dave was like an engineer.

Speaker 2: 12:47

And so he was like oh, and it was like that's a huge connection. And then he was so that I thought was like really believable, because you know, in other movies where it's like oh, magic just exists, you say this and then it's just like you say these words and it's just like you're just pulling it. But there is an actual. You know you're doing this, but you're saying this, but this reaction happens, but this is what you're actually manipulating and you get this reaction, you get that reaction.

Speaker 3: 13:19

And he I will say that Dave's job, or whatever he's in his college thing when he's interested in and as an engineer, was pretty cool too. He was working, wasn't he working with like coils or something.

Speaker 3: 13:32

Tesla coils, tesla coils yeah, and that part was cool as well as the scene. like that, everyone probably remembers words to the theme of secrets by what? one republic or something like that. that's their name. Yeah, i think that that was a good scene too. He tried to relay the information in a way that he understood and then also tried to teach him in a way that made sense too. There wasn't like just saying words and the spells were there. It was just like a different sort of magic that came from inside.

Speaker 3: 14:06

But, also that they got power from by the ring as well.

Speaker 2: 14:09

Yeah, and my second. I think this still leads into the stuff. My first ever scene was that he also explained that, like the, when they conjured spells, that it actually pulled from the your own electric nervous system. And so the reason why sorcerers wear old fashioned heels or shoes is so that they're grounded to the earth's magnetic field, and so if you're wearing regular shoes or rubber soles, it actually impedes your connection, thus dampening your ability to conjure spells, so that you're also pulling from your life force, your own electric nervous system. But you can amplify your spells by being connected to the earth's magnetic field. And I was like that makes total sense why he goes telling them don't wear these shoes because otherwise you're not gonna be able to perform magic in the way that you need to And you're gonna be at a disadvantage.

Speaker 2: 15:30

And it made total sense And I was like it was just you know them, by him just providing descriptions. It made a much more reasonable sense and again providing descriptions so that he could understand it. Otherwise he was like hey, it's magic, boom, boom, it exists type of thing.

Speaker 3: 15:51

And also, i would say too, one of the things is that it's not just that he quote unquote can do magic with the ring, unlike he's supposed to be the most powerful sorcerer, it's that he's the only one that would be able to do magic without the ring, and that was what made him more special is that, yeah, he had the ring to assist, but he, like Merlin, would be able to do it without the ring, and everyone else relied on their ring for their powers.

Speaker 2: 16:19

It was a conduit Everyone had, like a kind of like an Harry Potter, everyone has a wand or would have to perform incantations, because Merlin himself didn't need a conduit or a symbol or a wand of himself. He could perform. They would call it hand magic, like he could do a gesture and as long as he had the visual, mental vision of what he wanted to do when he performed the action, it would then come into fruition. And that's what you know Balthasar was trying to. You know, inform him that if you visualized it and visualize like the atoms vibrating, and then you know you could bring it into reality. So that was pretty cool.

Speaker 3: 17:09

Yeah, that part was good. I also like the beginning when they go through all the different centuries of when he's looking for someone for the next part of Merlin's kin. But I think I just love the period piece and I like the outfits they make him wear. Love to him being a shopkeeper when he just looked like a bum, but in a fun way.

Speaker 2: 17:27

My second favorite scene is the Fantasia scene, or is a direct scene from The Sword in a Stone with Dave has a date coming and she's coming to his workstation area, and so the place is a mess. So he casts a spell on the cleaning supplies.

Speaker 3: 17:53

Oh yeah, to clean the area, He's not very skilled.

Speaker 2: 17:56

It's not very skilled, but he doesn't realize that the he gives it to a few cleaning supplies but it ends up, you know, coming in contact to everything. And so by the time he leaves, gets ready for the day and it comes back the whole place is ruined. But it's just like a nice callback to The Sword in the Stone and, you know, kind of like a scene from like a. Disney movies of, i think maybe Fantasia of Swarfer Mickey.

Speaker 3: 18:30

Or even like Enchanted, where she has the animals help her clean.

Speaker 2: 18:33

Yeah, So it's a nice callback that they did. I thought it was pretty cool And just him kind of like you can gauge about where he's at and like how much he, how much growth he still needs, because he's like, no, that's fine, and just just walks away, it's going to just be cool.

Speaker 3: 18:56

Yeah, it's just going to be cool, and then it ends up being a hot mess and.

Speaker 3: 19:00

Nicholas Cage gets mad and says that, like, magic is not for that, not just for him to do some silly little chores and things like that, which makes sense. Yeah, i felt like the movie was enjoyable. It wasn't too long, it was predictable, but in a way that I would probably watch it again on a board or something you know, not like in a bad way. The two characters went well together too, so that worked. And Alfred Molina as the evil guy Horvath, he does a great job whenever he's a villain, i think. I think he enjoys it. He's a great actor, so that makes sense. Did you? did you have any weak areas of the movie that you thought there were?

Speaker 2: 19:42

I don't know if there were any weak areas, i mean. I mean I don't know. I think they could have explained, like they could have gone into more details of like, actually correction.

Speaker 1: 19:57

They're lower.

Speaker 2: 19:59

I think that's a weak area for me. Is that they could have gone into more details of the lower. I feel like that would have been for me. I feel like they were lacking. Is that more lower details? is that just knowing that there's this huge battle over the Marganians and how many of them and Balthazar is on this crusade for how many years, just taking out other members of this cult would have been nice to know. And if you know, are there still other members of the cult? Because one of Horde cats, once he's released, there was like there was like a Chris Angel kind of version character who happens to be a Marganian. That kind of slept under the radar. So I kind of felt like one weak area I wish we could have gotten more lore because that would have been cool. You know, i mean it's not much of a weak area to say, but I wish for me that was kind of it Like I wanted more lore.

Speaker 3: 21:12

Yeah, that makes sense. I would agree there There would be. It would be better if there was more lore, just like more explaining it. I would say my weak area of the movie is honestly, probably the love story. I feel like they always add an love story to things like this to push, like the male characters hero story forward, like he has something to lose because she does end up getting kidnapped at one point, so that's when he has to give up his ring to the villain And like he's trying to date her but also trying to be a normal guy. Like I just don't think that that makes sense to me.

Speaker 3: 21:48

Love stories are just, they're pointless in movies like this. They're just used to move the plot forward And I would prefer if the character actually had dimension outside of that. Like you don't know much about them outside of that he really likes this girl And he really wants to be with her and he's doing everything to be with her, but he's also not concerned about his own safety, apparently. So I would say that was the weak point. If they could have taken that away and maybe if she was just a friend or something, not to say there could never be a love story, but if this turned into like a series, then the love story could happen farther down the line And they just focused on the lore and like him learning how to master his abilities. I think that would have been a much better movie. And like the bromance between him and Nicholas Cage, like that would have been far more enjoyable to me than that. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:40

I'm glad you mentioned that, because that it felt out of place.

Speaker 3: 22:44

Yeah, it just felt really out of place.

Speaker 2: 22:46

It felt like once they brought her in she was just a liability that it like. If you were to watch the movie and her character not be there and not like that love story, it would have been fine.

Speaker 3: 22:59

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 23:01

Like he he could have been, the story would have worked just fine.

Speaker 3: 23:04

Yeah, like, oh well, and then cause, all we really know about her is that she. He asked her out when they were in elementary school and he never got to see her answer. She's in college, she hosts a radio show And I honestly think that's all I can remember about her from the movie. I don't think there's any other like she could be, could pull her out, and it would be honestly the same, the same movie. She does do one thing at the end where she moves like the antennas, but that's. They could have done that too, like it does. It just doesn't. I think they just gave her a character, something to do. But yeah, i don't think it was worth Worth having that love story in there. I think it was just a waste of some of them film Yeah.

Speaker 2: 23:47

Yeah, that's how Unmemorable that character was. She was just plopped in to kind of give him, i think, motivation. Yeah because he was. you know, he's not the, he's not the jock, he's not like he's a skinny nerdy kid. He's yeah, he's essentially You know, someone as an outcast and so This is just his motivation and so it was just weird.

Speaker 3: 24:15

It was. It was odd, and I also think the love story with Nicholas Cage and and the girl that ended up Fusing her body with Morgana that one was a little thrown in there too, because it's not clear that they're in love. In the beginning, i mean, i guess you could assume it, but it's not clear. But then when he talks about it you're like, oh okay, this makes sense why he cared so much. I mean, sure, but I you could have done without that one as well. But honestly, it didn't really matter, take away from me. So it's whatever it was. They just mention it Like it's not. And that's why they mentioned it, i think as a reason why Horvath betrayed them, because he was in love with her and she was very clearly in love with Nicholas Cage.

Speaker 3: 24:53

Yeah, correct. So I mean at least that makes sense. But for the other guy, absolutely, you know, i think they could have, they could have done that and I think had it continued As a series, like if it had made money, it would have made more sense for her and him to not date so that people could Could be like, oh, the guy gets the girl later. You know like it'd be something for people to invest in emotionally. But you know They're clearly not making a sequel.

Speaker 2: 25:24

So no, and then you know He. She clearly becomes a target in the future.

Speaker 3: 25:30

Yeah, she would.

Speaker 3: 25:31

Clearly She would be like Mary the whole spider-man you know, Mary Jane dilemma of every superhero It's always a girl, and you know, i think it should. It doesn't always have to be a girl, but it always is a girl. Yeah, so, moving on, i would say My final thoughts in rating. I would say it was an enjoyable film. I would recommend, and you can watch it with kids too. So it's not like then the know, our knowing, is definitely not something you should watch with children. I mean no freaking sense This will be. You could watch with kids, old people who are strangers, friends, love interests, whatever. I think it's a good time. The CGI is not bad in it either.

Speaker 3: 26:11

I think that was pretty, pretty good. I mean it's obviously Disney money, so they have the the capabilities I would give it. If it's out of 10, i would give it like a six out of 10. I Overall enjoyed it. I didn't have a bad time. I was way more engaged than I was with knowing. We're even con air and, yeah, i. I thought it was not bad and I also really enjoyed Nicholas Kitch's hair in this movie. So, and the fedora I Think he pulled it off.

Speaker 2: 26:40

So yeah. So this movie I would give it. You know it's actually good watch, much more enjoyable than the. Knowing I Would give it a, a seven. You know the, the action in it, the. You know the spells. Everything about the movie was great. You know other than you know. Remove the love interest and you can bring that rating up to an eight.

Speaker 3: 27:05

Yeah, I would definitely have moved my rating up if we didn't have that portion and this movie is a Disney film.

Speaker 2: 27:11

So, like you know, 2010 for a Disney film at the time, and it already has, you know, some deep loop lore for like being Merlin and you know in that section, like sector of Disney.

Speaker 3: 27:26

So, like you know, was this before Disney owned Marvel.

Speaker 2: 27:31

I Believe so.

Speaker 3: 27:34

I think it might have been around the start of the peak of Marvel to like iron man and stuff. But yeah, no, i agree, i think it would have been higher without the love story. Not that I don't believe in love, but it just feels like they used time that could have been spent on other parts of the film, like building an actual Foundation for the, the universe that this story is supposed to exist in. Yeah, did you have any reviews from letterbox that you wanted to highlight?

Speaker 2: 28:03

Yes, so Let's see.

Speaker 3: 28:09

I can go first, if you want.

Speaker 2: 28:11

Yeah, go first.

Speaker 3: 28:12

Okay, so Mayan is going to be from Emily. Shout out to Emily. She gave the movie two and a half out of five stars and she put Nick Cage is both the actor and the genre. So if you know, you know he is both the actor and the genre.

Speaker 2: 28:30

Alright, so we're going to give a shout out to Shout out to Molly, who gave it three and a half stars on Otherbox. It's time that we all accept that this movie is a masterpiece.

Speaker 3: 28:51

Yeah, i love the people who are really on board here Like. This movie is a cinematic masterpiece and I will go to my grave saying that, god willing, i support you in your path forward.

Speaker 2: 29:07

So my second one is going to be shout out to Jenna, who gave it three stars About the star. I didn't have to go that hard with his fit, and so her referencing is his outfit.

Speaker 3: 29:20

Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm telling you it was not a bad outfit, like even though the fedora is so cheesy, he pulled it off. I was surprised. I was like I don't think this look on Nicholas Cage And you know he's always had his widows peek in his hair. He had a good looking face in this movie, not going to lie. My second one is going to be from Kayla and her review. She gave it two and a half stars and she said I need my villains a little sexy or I'm just not engaged. And I agree, kayla, i agree Who's?

Speaker 2: 29:54

sexy.

Speaker 3: 29:56

She could be talking about Alfred Molina, or she could be talking about the guy who has, who's like the Chris Angel of, who was part of the Morgana clan, who doesn't really have. He hasn't mastered his powers, really, because his teacher was taken away from him at a young age. But yeah he's helping with the movie.

Speaker 2: 30:15

Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 3: 30:17

Yeah, he was a little bit eccentric and out there on theatrics.

Speaker 2: 30:22

Yeah, i could see that.

Speaker 3: 30:24

Yeah, well, i would say that this is enjoyable and I hope the next one in the future is just as good. Did you have any final thoughts?

Speaker 2: 30:36

No, i actually enjoyed it, and so I'm looking forward to the next movie that we're going to. you know, take us on this, you know, nick Cage Multiverse journey that we're on, which were, you know, bringing us on some highs and some lows.

Speaker 3: 30:53

Just like Nicholas Cage's career. We've got peaks and we've got valleys, and I don't know if it'll ever get as low as knowing again, so let's hope not.

Speaker 2: 31:02

Yeah, let's hope not, and so that will kind of bring this episode to a close.

Speaker 3: 31:06

Well, i lost my hand, I lost my wife. Johnny has his hands, johnny has his wife. I don't know why I do that every time.

Speaker 1: 31:17

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